Rollo has previously sent troops to Ivar the Boneless for his battle against Lagertha, but Standen stated their relationship will turn bitter in 5B: "I think Ivar the Boneless, maybe he has been getting his way a little too much. Ragnar Lodrok wanted to kill his son Ivar the Boneless against Aslaug's wishes. The native Anglo-Saxons referred to the invaders as the "Great Heathen Army". Both Wikipedia pages reference that many people equate Imar with Ivar but that there is no proof of this. And that alone could cause a misunderstanding. Upon Ivar’s arrival, he said: “I have decided to treat your arrival here as a sign Ivar the Boneless. Killing Freydis. Sir Robert Maxwell of Calderwood. And what kind of sources do you base your revisions you made on Ivar's profile last friday? In the British sources, he’s presented as a pagan demon sent from hell; in the Viking ones, he’s a … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Dmar. It has a timeline and that could help avoid confusion about the persons and the era they lived. I can't find the link again but im 90% certain that Ragnar's name never got a mention, Ivar and Halfdan are clearly mentioned as brothers but not as sons of Ragnar Lothbrok. There is a very interesting (to me) comment on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivar_the_Boneless#Ivar_the_Bonele... So my theory is Ivar follows his brother Amlaíb / Óláfr Gudrødsson, King of Dublin to Ireland from Norway and spends several years dominating Dublin/Ireland/Irish Sea. As a prince, he was gifted with military leadership. Is it true that Imar does not get a mention in the Icelandic Sagas? In The cronicle of Saxo grammaticus he is one of Ragnar lodbroks sons along with Sigurd Worm in eye and Bjørn Ironside. On Wikipedia there is a page for Ivar the Boneless and a page for Imar King of Dublin. Are Ivar and Ivar 2 different people for sure? [1179] Annals of Ulster, 895.4, p. 349. I did find an online copy of the Anglo Saxon Chronicles (from a link i think Harald had posted) in modern English and read the years covering the Great Heathen Army. The Norse Saga of Ragnar Lodbrok records that Ivar the Boneless was the son of the famed Viking warrior Ragnar Lodbrok and his wife Aslaug. It seems a reasonably acceptable stance to state that the legendary Ragnar "Lodbrok" Sigurdsson is a composite character based upon several historical persons, with this in mind it is possible that some of his sons are in fact brothers but not necessarily all of the same father. I stripped Ivar the Boneless of those three sons based on the work of Charles Cawley who identifies all three as sons of Imar. Also - I am also interested to learn what is your background in medieval studies? Ivar Ragnarsson was the son of the King of Sweden. We know this both from his fame in Old Norse legends, where he was revered as a godlike warrior, and from British sources, which considered him a demon straight outta the depths of hell. However, Ivar is one of the few characters based on a real-life person, who just like in Vikings, was born with weak bones and given the nickname “Boneless”. If you have evidence that ivar the Boneless and Ivar, King of Dublin are the same person then this would be a ground breaking historical revelation and i would be really happy to hear about it. Iain Scott Gracie, I assume you mean that you are a descendant of Ivarr Gudrodson, king of Dublin as it is impossible to be a descendant of "Ivar the Boneless" owing to his lack of children? Did the real Ivar the Boneless kill Bjorn Ironside? [1173] Chronicon Scottorum, 881, p. 141. In light of all the evidence presented, there is no reason to believe that Ivar and Imar aren't the same person. Ivar the Boneless (Old Norse: Ívarr hinn Beinlausi; born 800s-died 873), also known as Ivar Ragnarsson, was a Viking leader who invaded England. The Annals of Ulster record in 881 that "the oratory of Cianan was destroyed by the foreigners…afterwards Barith, a great despot of the Norsemen, was killed by St. Ciannan"[1174]. It is supposed that this passage refers to Sigfrith who had (presumably) succeeded his brother two years earlier. In the book of The Nordic Kings, Ivar is said to have had no issue, then he could have had children but they could have died young. The Annals of Innisfallen record in 873 that "Barid with a great fleet from Ath Cliath [went] by sea westwards, and he plundered Ciarraigne Luachra under ground [i.e. But the fact that you are referring to webpages like http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsBritain/GaelsDublin.htm makes me very concerned that your background in medieval studies is even more lacking than mine. The Annals of Innisfallen record in 883 "the burning of Les Mor by the son of Imar"[1175]. Dansk: And I think you'll find that all the way through the history of Ivar is that he does terrible things and then he feels awful afterwards. Ivar the Boneless was not a cripple at all. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#_Toc389126206. the raiding of the caves]"[1172]. The origin of his nickname is unknown, but several of … The idea that Ivar and his brothers attacked England in 865 to avenge their "father" would by this theory become a later addition to explain/ennoble the invasion above a simple power grab. All that I have done on Geni is work on making the Geni profiles of Ivar and Imar match Cawley's website and wikipedia. Like de Soppe is von Sobbe with variants of Zobbe, Zoppe, Suppot, Soppen, Seppois, Suppe, Sobe, Sobieski, Sopkovich, etc. Ivar the Boneless was leading elite crews of berserkers against the Irish when news reached him that King Aelle of Northumbria had trapped and his father, the legendary Ragnar Lothbrok, and killed him by casting him into a pit of vipers. Wikimedia/ (CC BY-SA 4.0) One of the breakout characters from "Vikings" — a History Channel drama that ended its six-season run in 2020 — is Ivar the Boneless. (1951) Annals of Innisfallen (Dublin), available at